VooDooMan Forum Moderator Offline Retro Martyr Posts: 3076 Location: Wielkopolska Joined: 30. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #15 - 18. May 2018 at 09:05 Ta już poszła do Konku, jeszcze Marian jest w kolejce po taką, nie widziałem że też takiej szukasz Ostatnio widziałem jakiegoś Vipera Z II na sprzedaż gdzieś w sklepie internetowym, poszukam linka i zobaczysz czy Ci cena odpowiada Tutaj takie por體nanie w 16 BITACH 2_001.png ( 30 KB | 16 Downloads ) "...ale najpierw zrozumcie m贸j b贸l" (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
MarianX VIP Member Offline Posts: 6930 Location: Hrubieszow Joined: 31. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #16 - 29. Oct 2018 at 11:03 @VooDooMan Masz mo偶e screeny z testami z pierwszego posta? IP Logged
VooDooMan Forum Moderator Offline Retro Martyr Posts: 3076 Location: Wielkopolska Joined: 30. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #17 - 29. Oct 2018 at 11:43 Oczywi艣cie jak si臋 tylko do nich dokopie to wstawie na nowo "...ale najpierw zrozumcie m贸j b贸l" (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
kaiser77_1982 YaBB Newbies Offline I Love YaBB 2.5 Posts: 42 Joined: 22. Aug 2018 Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #18 - 29. Oct 2018 at 11:54 Hello!!!! Those cards are interesting. They could save to S3 :/ If we talk about Metal API, Do you know a list of games compatible with Metal API? And info about Metal API? I didn't see info of Metal API in internet (or Vogons). IP Logged
MarianX VIP Member Offline Posts: 6930 Location: Hrubieszow Joined: 31. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #19 - 29. Oct 2018 at 12:20 Super, b臋d臋 wdzi臋czny xD. B臋d臋 mia艂 te偶 spraw臋 o ma艂y te艣cik jakiego艣 s2000 Masz wszystkie kt贸re fotografowa艂e艣 na stole? IP Logged
Neo 3dfx Friends Offline Developing Engineer Posts: 4264 Location: Birkenhead Joined: 04. Jan 2016 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #20 - 29. Oct 2018 at 12:56 kaiser77_1982 wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 11:54:If we talk about Metal API, Do you know a list of games compatible with Metal API? And info about Metal API? I didn't see info of Metal API in internet (or Vogons). Unreal Tournament (1999) and other titles based on the first Unreal Engine. Some may be not compatible or require patching/modding - I tried Deus Ex once and it didn't work out of the box, but I didn't investigate further. DIY woodbox: AMD 386DX40, 32MB RAM, Diamond Stealth VRAM 1MB, Aztech Pro16 ABI (AZT2316), Primax SoundStorm Wave M16B 1MB (GUS Classic clone), ST3491A, 256MB CF, Windows 95Socket 7: AOpen AP59s, Cyrix M II-300GP (225 MHz), 64MB SDRAM, SiS 6326 8MB SGRAM, SB32 CT3670 8MB, 9.1 GB IBM SCSI HDD, Win98FESocket A: WinFast K7S741, Sempron 2400+ @1960MHz water cooled, 1 GB DDR400, WinFast Geforce 6600 128MB, Audigy SB0090, PCI SATA card (SIL3114), 80GB IDE HDD 3.5", 160GB SATA HDD 2.5", WinXP WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
MarianX VIP Member Offline Posts: 6930 Location: Hrubieszow Joined: 31. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #21 - 29. Oct 2018 at 15:29 kaiser77_1982 wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 11:54:If we talk about Metal API, Do you know a list of games compatible with Metal API? And info about Metal API? I didn't see info of Metal API in internet (or Vogons). I think You can find some info in this thread (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) IP Logged
VooDooMan Forum Moderator Offline Retro Martyr Posts: 3076 Location: Wielkopolska Joined: 30. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #22 - 30. Oct 2018 at 11:57 MarianX wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 12:20:B臋d臋 mia艂 te偶 spraw臋 o ma艂y te艣cik jakiego艣 s2000 Masz wszystkie kt贸re fotografowa艂e艣 na stole? Marian, jednak jedn膮 twoj膮 pro艣b臋 b臋de m贸g艂 spe艂ni膰 ju偶 teraz bo mia艂em co艣 na backupie: Spakowane testy wszystkich 3 Savegach z przed paru lat, pierwsze 3 3D marki ogarni臋te (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) przy okazji, kto艣 ostatnio nagra艂 nawet piosenk臋 o tych kartach LOL (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) @Neo, mo偶e ci si臋 spodoba, takie moje ostatnie odkrycie :p "...ale najpierw zrozumcie m贸j b贸l" (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
kaiser77_1982 YaBB Newbies Offline I Love YaBB 2.5 Posts: 42 Joined: 22. Aug 2018 Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #23 - 30. Oct 2018 at 12:07 Neo wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 12:56: Unreal Tournament (1999) and other titles based on the first Unreal Engine. Some may be not compatible or require patching/modding - I tried Deus Ex once and it didn't work out of the box, but I didn't investigate further. Deus Ex (Original) is a bit stupid game. When I played in my 1060 with Steam, I had to play with the options becuase I have problemas with textures and colors. @MarianX Interesting link, we have no list but we can get more info about API... I will see at home with pacience. Thanks IP Logged
Neo 3dfx Friends Offline Developing Engineer Posts: 4264 Location: Birkenhead Joined: 04. Jan 2016 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #24 - 30. Oct 2018 at 12:47 kaiser77_1982 wrote on 30. Oct 2018 at 12:07:Deus Ex (Original) is a bit stupid game. When I played in my 1060 with Steam, I had to play with the options becuase I have problemas with textures and colors. Deus Ex is a great game! But like anything using Unreal Engine 1 you need to know a few things: -forget Direct3D, it's slow and buggy (yes, wrong contrast and gamma) -OpenGL is much faster, but few cards have compatibility problems -Glide is heaven -S3 MeTaL rules when it's properly supported @ VooDooMan dobre! DIY woodbox: AMD 386DX40, 32MB RAM, Diamond Stealth VRAM 1MB, Aztech Pro16 ABI (AZT2316), Primax SoundStorm Wave M16B 1MB (GUS Classic clone), ST3491A, 256MB CF, Windows 95Socket 7: AOpen AP59s, Cyrix M II-300GP (225 MHz), 64MB SDRAM, SiS 6326 8MB SGRAM, SB32 CT3670 8MB, 9.1 GB IBM SCSI HDD, Win98FESocket A: WinFast K7S741, Sempron 2400+ @1960MHz water cooled, 1 GB DDR400, WinFast Geforce 6600 128MB, Audigy SB0090, PCI SATA card (SIL3114), 80GB IDE HDD 3.5", 160GB SATA HDD 2.5", WinXP WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
VooDooMan Forum Moderator Offline Retro Martyr Posts: 3076 Location: Wielkopolska Joined: 30. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #25 - 31. Oct 2018 at 09:30 Pierwszy post zaktualizowany, a tutaj przesy艂am wszystkie do pobrania spakowane rarem, mo偶na zobaczy膰 wyniki cz臋stkowe: (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) "...ale najpierw zrozumcie m贸j b贸l" (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
MarianX VIP Member Offline Posts: 6930 Location: Hrubieszow Joined: 31. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #26 - 01. Nov 2018 at 19:07 Podrzucam par臋 s艂贸w od siebie o savage 2000. Jak Neo s艂usznie zauwa偶y艂 nie zgadza艂 si臋 fillrate, jakby karta lecia艂a tylko na jednym potoku. Do test贸w wybra艂em najnowsz膮 wersj臋 od S3 w wersji 9.51.17 (drugi s艂upek). Wynik jest kiepski a fillrate taki jak u szybszego savage4. Uda艂o mi si臋 znale藕膰 w necie jaki艣 te艣cik z 3dm99 do por贸wnania i tam wszystko by艂o jak z艂oto Chcia艂em sprawdzi膰 wcze艣niejsze wersje sterownik贸w ale po ma艂ych problemach wesz艂y dopiero 9.51.03 od diamonda. Bingo! Wynik ko艅cowy jest gorszy ale fillrate ju偶 nie W tym te艣cie nie chodzi艂o mi o bicie rekord贸w ale tylko o odpalenie drugiego potoku wi臋c mo偶emy opi膰 sukces Wnioski z zabawy: 1. Warto sprawdzi膰 sterowniki by nie dusi膰 wydajno艣ci, ale z drugiej strony to jakby inna karta 2. Sterowniki via 4.56 poprawi艂y wydajno艣膰 w bump mapping emboss 3pass w stosunku do 4.43 3. Sterowniki S3 bardzo r贸偶ni膮 si臋 od tych diamonda co wida膰 w tabelce. Dlaczego dwa testy BME nie posz艂y na sterach S3? 4. Savage 2000 to niez艂y zap......acz ale wymaga zabawy s2000.JPG ( 111 KB | 10 Downloads ) screen.JPG ( 181 KB | 2 Downloads ) IP Logged
Neo 3dfx Friends Offline Developing Engineer Posts: 4264 Location: Birkenhead Joined: 04. Jan 2016 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #27 - 01. Nov 2018 at 20:28 MarianX wrote on 01. Nov 2018 at 19:07:Dlaczego dwa testy BME nie posz艂y na sterach S3? Bo wymagaj膮 sprz臋towego multiteksturingu, a na tych sterach S3 jest zablokowany. DIY woodbox: AMD 386DX40, 32MB RAM, Diamond Stealth VRAM 1MB, Aztech Pro16 ABI (AZT2316), Primax SoundStorm Wave M16B 1MB (GUS Classic clone), ST3491A, 256MB CF, Windows 95Socket 7: AOpen AP59s, Cyrix M II-300GP (225 MHz), 64MB SDRAM, SiS 6326 8MB SGRAM, SB32 CT3670 8MB, 9.1 GB IBM SCSI HDD, Win98FESocket A: WinFast K7S741, Sempron 2400+ @1960MHz water cooled, 1 GB DDR400, WinFast Geforce 6600 128MB, Audigy SB0090, PCI SATA card (SIL3114), 80GB IDE HDD 3.5", 160GB SATA HDD 2.5", WinXP WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged
MarianX VIP Member Offline Posts: 6930 Location: Hrubieszow Joined: 31. May 2012 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #28 - 01. Nov 2018 at 20:52 Tak my艣la艂em Wydaje mi si臋 偶e stery S3 numerek albo dwa starsze b臋d膮 ok ale ju偶 tego nie sprawdz臋 bo wy艂o偶y艂 mi si臋 windows i zapomnia艂em gdzie w艂o偶y艂em jaki艣 nap臋d Poszukam jeszcze modowanych driver贸w do wszystkich kart savage IP Logged
Neo 3dfx Friends Offline Developing Engineer Posts: 4264 Location: Birkenhead Joined: 04. Jan 2016 Gender: Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000 Reply #29 - 01. Nov 2018 at 20:55 Te偶 troch臋 wysok膮 rozdzielczo艣膰 ustawi艂e艣 w tych testach. W 1024x768 mo偶e te stery Diamonda by艂y by nieco szybsze - podejrzewam tu walk臋 o przepustowo艣膰 pami臋ci. 2 potoki zasysa艂y cz臋艣ciej ni偶 jeden i st膮d mo偶e przy pojedy艅czym og贸lny wynik by艂 szybszy na jednym w tej rozdzia艂ce Edit: Chocia偶 to 16 bit, wi臋c raczej nie. Potrzeba wi臋cej testuff!! DIY woodbox: AMD 386DX40, 32MB RAM, Diamond Stealth VRAM 1MB, Aztech Pro16 ABI (AZT2316), Primax SoundStorm Wave M16B 1MB (GUS Classic clone), ST3491A, 256MB CF, Windows 95Socket 7: AOpen AP59s, Cyrix M II-300GP (225 MHz), 64MB SDRAM, SiS 6326 8MB SGRAM, SB32 CT3670 8MB, 9.1 GB IBM SCSI HDD, Win98FESocket A: WinFast K7S741, Sempron 2400+ @1960MHz water cooled, 1 GB DDR400, WinFast Geforce 6600 128MB, Audigy SB0090, PCI SATA card (SIL3114), 80GB IDE HDD 3.5", 160GB SATA HDD 2.5", WinXP WWW Facebook YouTube IP Logged