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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #15 - 18. May 2018 at 09:05
 
Ta już poszła do Konku, jeszcze Marian jest w kolejce po taką, nie widziałem że też takiej szukasz Tongue Ostatnio widziałem jakiegoś Vipera Z II na sprzedaż gdzieś w sklepie internetowym, poszukam linka i zobaczysz czy Ci cena odpowiada Wink

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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #16 - 29. Oct 2018 at 11:03
 
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Masz mo偶e screeny z testami z pierwszego posta? Smiley
  
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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #17 - 29. Oct 2018 at 11:43
 
Oczywi艣cie Grin jak si臋 tylko do nich dokopie to wstawie na nowo Cheesy
  

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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #18 - 29. Oct 2018 at 11:54
 
Hello!!!! Those cards are interesting. They could save to S3 :/

If we talk about Metal API, Do you know a list of games compatible with Metal API? And info about Metal API? I didn't see info of Metal API in internet (or Vogons).
  
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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #19 - 29. Oct 2018 at 12:20
 
Super, b臋d臋 wdzi臋czny xD. B臋d臋 mia艂 te偶 spraw臋 o ma艂y te艣cik jakiego艣 s2000 Smiley Masz wszystkie kt贸re fotografowa艂e艣 na stole? Smiley
  
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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #20 - 29. Oct 2018 at 12:56
 
kaiser77_1982 wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 11:54:
If we talk about Metal API, Do you know a list of games compatible with Metal API? And info about Metal API? I didn't see info of Metal API in internet (or Vogons).

Unreal Tournament (1999) and other titles based on the first Unreal Engine. Some may be not compatible or require patching/modding - I tried Deus Ex once and it didn't work out of the box, but I didn't investigate further.
  

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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #21 - 29. Oct 2018 at 15:29
 
kaiser77_1982 wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 11:54:
If we talk about Metal API, Do you know a list of games compatible with Metal API? And info about Metal API? I didn't see info of Metal API in internet (or Vogons).

I think You can find some info in this thread Smiley
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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #22 - 30. Oct 2018 at 11:57
 
MarianX wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 12:20:
B臋d臋 mia艂 te偶 spraw臋 o ma艂y te艣cik jakiego艣 s2000 Smiley Masz wszystkie kt贸re fotografowa艂e艣 na stole? Smiley


Marian, jednak jedn膮 twoj膮 pro艣b臋 b臋de m贸g艂 spe艂ni膰 ju偶 teraz bo mia艂em co艣 na backupie: Spakowane testy wszystkich 3 Savegach z przed paru lat, pierwsze 3 3D marki ogarni臋te Smiley

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przy okazji, kto艣 ostatnio nagra艂 nawet piosenk臋 o tych kartach  Shocked  Cheesy LOL
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@Neo, mo偶e ci si臋 spodoba, takie moje ostatnie odkrycie :p
  

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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #23 - 30. Oct 2018 at 12:07
 
Neo wrote on 29. Oct 2018 at 12:56:
Unreal Tournament (1999) and other titles based on the first Unreal Engine. Some may be not compatible or require patching/modding - I tried Deus Ex once and it didn't work out of the box, but I didn't investigate further.



Deus Ex (Original) is a bit stupid game. When I played in my 1060 with Steam, I had to play with the options becuase I have problemas with textures and colors.

@MarianX

Interesting link, we have no list but we can get more info about API... I will see at home with pacience. Thanks Cheesy
  
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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #24 - 30. Oct 2018 at 12:47
 
kaiser77_1982 wrote on 30. Oct 2018 at 12:07:
Deus Ex (Original) is a bit stupid game. When I played in my 1060 with Steam, I had to play with the options becuase I have problemas with textures and colors.

Deus Ex is a great game! But like anything using Unreal Engine 1 you need to know a few things:

-forget Direct3D, it's slow and buggy (yes, wrong contrast and gamma)
-OpenGL is much faster, but few cards have compatibility problems
-Glide is heaven
-S3 MeTaL rules when it's properly supported

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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #25 - 31. Oct 2018 at 09:30
 
Pierwszy post zaktualizowany, a tutaj przesy艂am wszystkie do pobrania spakowane rarem, mo偶na zobaczy膰 wyniki cz臋stkowe:
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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #26 - 01. Nov 2018 at 19:07
 
Podrzucam par臋 s艂贸w od siebie o savage 2000. Jak Neo s艂usznie zauwa偶y艂 nie zgadza艂 si臋 fillrate, jakby karta lecia艂a tylko na jednym potoku. Do test贸w wybra艂em najnowsz膮 wersj臋 od S3 w wersji 9.51.17 (drugi s艂upek). Wynik jest kiepski a fillrate taki jak u szybszego savage4. Uda艂o mi si臋 znale藕膰 w necie jaki艣 te艣cik z 3dm99 do por贸wnania i tam wszystko by艂o jak z艂oto Smiley Chcia艂em sprawdzi膰 wcze艣niejsze wersje sterownik贸w ale po ma艂ych problemach wesz艂y dopiero 9.51.03 od diamonda. Bingo! Grin Wynik ko艅cowy jest gorszy ale fillrate ju偶 nie Smiley W tym te艣cie nie chodzi艂o mi o bicie rekord贸w ale tylko o odpalenie drugiego potoku wi臋c mo偶emy opi膰 sukces Grin

Wnioski z zabawy:
1. Warto sprawdzi膰 sterowniki by nie dusi膰 wydajno艣ci, ale z drugiej strony to jakby inna karta Wink
2. Sterowniki via 4.56 poprawi艂y wydajno艣膰 w bump mapping emboss 3pass w stosunku do 4.43
3. Sterowniki S3 bardzo r贸偶ni膮 si臋 od tych diamonda co wida膰 w tabelce. Dlaczego dwa testy BME nie posz艂y na sterach S3?
4. Savage 2000 to niez艂y zap......acz ale wymaga zabawy Tongue
  

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Reply #27 - 01. Nov 2018 at 20:28
 
MarianX wrote on 01. Nov 2018 at 19:07:
Dlaczego dwa testy BME nie posz艂y na sterach S3?

Bo wymagaj膮 sprz臋towego multiteksturingu, a na tych sterach S3 jest zablokowany.
  

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Re: S3 Savage 4 EXTREME vs. S3 Savage 20000
Reply #28 - 01. Nov 2018 at 20:52
 
Tak my艣la艂em Smiley Wydaje mi si臋 偶e stery S3 numerek albo dwa starsze b臋d膮 ok ale ju偶 tego nie sprawdz臋 bo wy艂o偶y艂 mi si臋 windows i zapomnia艂em gdzie w艂o偶y艂em jaki艣 nap臋d Tongue Poszukam jeszcze modowanych driver贸w do wszystkich kart savage Smiley
  
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Reply #29 - 01. Nov 2018 at 20:55
 
Te偶 troch臋 wysok膮 rozdzielczo艣膰 ustawi艂e艣 w tych testach. W 1024x768 mo偶e te stery Diamonda by艂y by nieco szybsze - podejrzewam tu walk臋 o przepustowo艣膰 pami臋ci. 2 potoki zasysa艂y cz臋艣ciej ni偶 jeden i st膮d mo偶e przy pojedy艅czym og贸lny wynik by艂 szybszy na jednym w tej rozdzia艂ce Huh

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